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		<title>Krule: Created page with &quot;Originally Posted : Fri Apr 12 19:31:21 2002&lt;br&gt;Posted by : Alexi&lt;br&gt;Title : Orcs and Ogres&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Orcs and Ogres!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For a long time now, the &#039;civilized&#039; races have warre...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Originally Posted : Fri Apr 12 19:31:21 2002&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Posted by : Alexi&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Title : Orcs and Ogres&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Orcs and Ogres!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For a long time now, the &amp;#039;civilized&amp;#039; races have warre...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Originally Posted : Fri Apr 12 19:31:21 2002&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Posted by : Alexi&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Title : Orcs and Ogres&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Orcs and Ogres!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;For a long time now, the &amp;#039;civilized&amp;#039; races have warred with your people &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;and treated them as dirt beneath their feet! The only way an orc could &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;roam the civilized lands and find new realms to explore was to pretend &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;that he had some human blood, that he was a half-breed.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Ogres have been told for ages that they aren&amp;#039;t &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; ogres, that they are &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;mere half-human weaklings.Some say they were told this for their own &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;protection, but that&amp;#039;s a pathetic excuse. Ogres may be a little slow to &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;realize when they&amp;#039;re being lied to, but their wrath is a terrible thing to &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;behol!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Recently, thanks to a slightly more liberal faction of the Mainland &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;government taking power, these &amp;#039;hidden&amp;#039; orcs and ogres have come to &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;understand that they no longer have to conceal who, and what, they really &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;are!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The Natives have known what these races actually are for a long, long &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;time. Ogres and orcs have such a brutish, primitive nature, that they&amp;#039;ve &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;long been accepted into the Native ranks. Of course the natives never told &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;anyone else.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;-----------&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;the skinny:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- half-orcs are now orcs.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- half-ogres are now ogres, and are 5 points stronger (and a little less &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;dextrous).&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- orcs and ogres can still be natives, and the natives will accept members &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;of those races. (let&amp;#039;s face it, it just makes sense)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;-----------&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;some behind-the-scenes thoughts:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;i&amp;#039;ve considered skill mods for ogres, but:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- they have such excellent stats to begin with,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- they have none of the drawbacks of minotaurs,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- any skill boosts that mke sense would be overkill b/c of their great&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   stats (+20 str *and* a bonus to &amp;#039;smite&amp;#039;? ouch)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;i&amp;#039;ve also seriously considered a mod to orcs&amp;#039; stat base, giving them more &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;str too, but:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- they dont need to lose any dex or con. that would weaken &amp;#039;em and&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   be unthematic.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;- losing some int would give &amp;#039;em the same stat base as muuls... and&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   w/ orcs&amp;#039; other bonuses, there&amp;#039;d be very little reason to play a&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;   muul.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;-----------&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;check for problems, and if you run across anything - help files, NPCs, &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;whatever - that refers to half-orcs or half-ogres, please bug it for me.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;thanks&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;#039;lexi&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Category:Changes_Board]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Krule</name></author>
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